reb78 Posted November 10, 2021 Posted November 10, 2021 The D3 needs a brake overhaul. Branded new rear calipers seem hard to come by - I can only find nearside TRW calipers. AF sell a brand called Einbach - any views on the brand? I have never heard of them? LRDirect, Britcar etc stock all the normal unbranded BP/Bearmach sourced stuff but nowhere has stock of both calipers from TRW/Delphi/AP etc etc which is what i would normally buy. Quote
smallfry Posted November 10, 2021 Posted November 10, 2021 Have heard of Eicher, but not Einbach. Another budget German sounding name to make it seem better than it is, from a rebranding company ? No idea ☹️ Quote
western Posted November 10, 2021 Posted November 10, 2021 Eibach do suspension parts, don't think I've seen Einbach before Looks to be a brand from this group https://www.pdpgroup.co.uk/brands.php more here Einbach Clutch, Brake Pads and Brake discs, Quote
reb78 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Posted November 10, 2021 I saw that link Ralph but its a lot of words saying nothing! I am wondering if just going with Bearmach might be sensible. Quote
reb78 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Posted November 10, 2021 Britcar have EAC calipers. Most of what I have had from them has been ok. Any thoughts on EAC or are they still cheap things sourced from the far east? Quote
Eightpot Posted November 10, 2021 Posted November 10, 2021 I buy lots of parts for work and don't rate Bearmach own brand stuff anymore, they've gone cheap chinesy - the quality of some stuff is awful. Quote
cackshifter Posted November 10, 2021 Posted November 10, 2021 I recently bought some calipers and discs from Brakes International for my MR2, they seem fine so far. Well, it passed the MOT, haven't done very many miles. Quote
reb78 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Posted November 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, Eightpot said: I buy lots of parts for work and don't rate Bearmach own brand stuff anymore, they've gone cheap chinesy - the quality of some stuff is awful. What do you go for instead if you cant find a good branded version of something for a LR? Quote
reb78 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, cackshifter said: I recently bought some calipers and discs from Brakes International for my MR2, they seem fine so far. Well, it passed the MOT, haven't done very many miles. Interesting. Looks like they supply TRW and APEC (both good) but who the heck are Budweg?! They say the latter are remanufacturers. looks like they are worth emailing though if they can get TRW or Apec. If i wanted remanufactured I would do that myself. Edited November 10, 2021 by reb78 Quote
western Posted November 10, 2021 Posted November 10, 2021 I got my rear calipers through LRP of Camborne. they don't have a website but a google search will bring up the contact info. Quote
Eightpot Posted November 10, 2021 Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, reb78 said: What do you go for instead if you cant find a good branded version of something for a LR? Depends on the part, but brake pads I'd rather hunt around or pay more if necessary, cheap pads can either squeal or make tons of dust. Quote
reb78 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Posted November 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, Eightpot said: Depends on the part, but brake pads I'd rather hunt around or pay more if necessary, cheap pads can either squeal or make tons of dust. I can get pads ok. Its the branded D3 calipers that seem hard to find at the moment and genuine is over £200! Quote
FridgeFreezer Posted November 11, 2021 Posted November 11, 2021 17 hours ago, reb78 said: I can get pads ok. Its the branded D3 calipers that seem hard to find at the moment and genuine is over £200! £200 for a genuine caliper isn't that bad in the big scheme of things - we're spoiled by the likes of Britpart knocking out junk for £20 making normal prices feel very expensive. When I have to stamp on the brakes I don't really want to be remembering how much money I saved on parts 1 Quote
Bowie69 Posted November 11, 2021 Posted November 11, 2021 Tbh, I was thinking the same, we aren't talking about defender calipers here, the D3 ones are quick significantly bigger/better.....! Quote
reb78 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Posted November 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, FridgeFreezer said: £200 for a genuine caliper isn't that bad in the big scheme of things - we're spoiled by the likes of Britpart knocking out junk for £20 making normal prices feel very expensive. When I have to stamp on the brakes I don't really want to be remembering how much money I saved on parts I dont disagree but when the LR ones are just AP or TRW with a ****ing great markup I find it hard to swallow! Quote
reb78 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Posted November 11, 2021 Brakes international will Supply Bremtech. Anyone heard of them? A brief google suggests an Australian company that manufacture in China?! Quote
cackshifter Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 I must admit I went with the Budweg; other MR2 owners had had them and said they were Ok, and they do seem fine. The one thing I did do was to paint before fitting, they were just a zinc plate finish, and I hate them going to a crusty rusty mess. But I bought AP ones a while back for my 90 and I had to do that with them. Quote
reb78 Posted November 12, 2021 Author Posted November 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, cackshifter said: I must admit I went with the Budweg; other MR2 owners had had them and said they were Ok, and they do seem fine. The one thing I did do was to paint before fitting, they were just a zinc plate finish, and I hate them going to a crusty rusty mess. But I bought AP ones a while back for my 90 and I had to do that with them. Yeah - looking them up they appear to be reconditioned in Denmark - as that's not China, I would be fairly happy I guess! They didnt offer them when I contacted them yesterday - just this make Bremtech that I hadnt heard of either! Quote
cackshifter Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 They seem to offer the Budweg as well as Bremtech in the online shop, but who knows? They reckon Bremtech are European. The discs have been fine too, I already had bought Brembo pads so I didn't use pads from there. Quote
HoSS Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 I've noticed in the last few years a lot of new, often German sounding brands being offered. I would steer clear. Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer takes the family to a discount store, and there are Hifi's by 'Sorny' and 'Panaphonic' 1 1 Quote
FridgeFreezer Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 On 11/11/2021 at 5:03 PM, reb78 said: I dont disagree but when the LR ones are just AP or TRW with a ****ing great markup I find it hard to swallow! Thing is they aren't necessarily that - I've said this before but i you take apart a genuine Land Rover Bosch starter motor and an "identical" genuine Bosch starter motor, the Land Rover one has more seals in it. People here in the know have said the same thing about other parts - OEM manufacturers may well sell parts that look identical or share major components but they're not built to the same standard, they're not made to last for the same mileage or pass the same stringent quality/safety tests. Skip a few coats of paint, skip a few heat-treatments on the metal, put cheaper seals or bushes in, make it with lower precision, etc. etc. Quote
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